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    I'm helping a friend to put together a budget setup.

    I found some info on Denon 1911 and it seems to be a good enough avr.

    What do you guys think?

    Thanks,
    Hugh
    MELODY US Distributor
    www.angelcityaudio.com

    A man is only as good as his words.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Hugh
    I'm helping a friend to put together a budget setup.

    I found some info on Denon 1911 and it seems to be a good enough avr.

    What do you guys think?

    Thanks,
    the denon is nice, dont discount the stuff from onkyo or harman kardon.

    Personally I think the harman stuff sounds quite nice, and there is a bit of a trickle down effect considering the size of harman and the vast array of audio companies (and thus technologies) under it's umbrella..

    Just my 2 cents.


    Matt
    Still think Craig is in the "Chase" for that sense of humour. :neener 1:

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    • #3
      My brother in law just finished his setup a few months ago. He had to have a HTIB and it had to come from Best Buy. After swaying him away from the real cheap brands he went with a Boston Acoustics set that is actually pretty nice. It came with what translated to a 1610 and it gets the job done if all your looking for is basic features. The 1911 should be a little more feature rich but I would image similar sound wise.

      From what I've read the 2311 is the sweet spot in the current line up but it's also upwards to $300 more.
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      • #4
        That's a nice AVR, personally I'd get a mid-priced AVR with PRE-OUTS with all the options you want.... Later on or now....match it up with an Emotiva XPA-3 or 5 and for the same money as those high-end AVRs you'll have a AVR/amp combo that'll spank the pricey AVRs around with ease. Not sure if the 1910 has Pre-outs but this would be my biggest make or break spec...Room for future upgrade of you amps is a must IMO. But it may not be too big of a deal for your friend...of course he may want more power later!

        Don't worry about upconverting video AVRs and all that.... it's a waste of money (unless your TV has a crappy upconverter in it) All high def TVs will upconvert or down convert all material to fit the native resolution of your screen.

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        • #5
          The Pioneer receivers are fantastic and super cheap online, I'd go for one of those over anything else unless having pre-outs is a sticking point. The new versions out (for under $400) also have decent video upconversion. They have plenty of options and amazing sound quality for the price.
          "Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."

          -Bill Watterson

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          • #6
            I would skip the Denon to avoid it's complicated remote control and setup menu. You'd have to learn a third language to understand the Denon. I had a headache trying to setup a friend's Denon 1909.

            A second vote for the Pioneer. Get one with pre-outs for future amp(s).

            And if your friend is old like you, which I'm guessing is the case ;), he may have older components that would need upconversion (or is it transcoding) to HDMI. So you might consider one that can do analog to HDMI conversion.

            Oh yea, get a Logitech remote control, too. You know who to talk to if you want to go with Onkyo. Their features and ease of use is very nice, but I'm not crazy about their SQ.
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            • #7
              My experience with the budget receivers is the biggest sound quality upgrade comes from going with an external amp. If you can get something cheaper with pre-outs and then fit in at least a two-channel external amp that would make a big difference. What other components will he be using?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dvenardos
                My experience with the budget receivers is the biggest sound quality upgrade comes from going with an external amp. If you can get something cheaper with pre-outs and then fit in at least a two-channel external amp that would make a big difference. What other components will he be using?
                The actual rated wattage of the included amps rarely meets the specs manufacturers claim. It's certainly improved over the years, but sensitivity of the speakers can often determine the necessity of an external amp. External amps certainly make little sense in a 'budget' setup though where speakers should comprise most of the budget.
                "Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."

                -Bill Watterson

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                • #9
                  I will vote for Pioneer also, just hooked one up for a friend and was pretty happy with it
                  Kevin
                  Motor City Custom Audio
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                  • #10
                    I'm also looking for an AVR.
                    I just need a 2ch AVR with HDMI switching.
                    Just for my gym setup to use WAF-1's and avoid using stereo speakers.

                    I was consider this:
                    Pioneer VSX-520-K Audio/Video Receiver
                    $200 at Amazon

                    Thoughts?

                    Mike
                    HT Gear (AVS Link)
                    Rk: MA WR-37-32
                    Pwr: 20A, Surge-X SEQ, M1500-UPS
                    Proj: JVC RS20, 128" 2.4:1 CaradaBW, ISCOIIIL, CineSlide, RadianceXE
                    Cbl: DirectTV C31/700 Genie receiver
                    Rec: 5308CI + XPA-3
                    BR: Oppo BDP-103
                    Gm: 360 Pro
                    LR/C: RS1KSig/RSC200Sig
                    S/R: RSS300/RS250MkII
                    Sub: SVS PB12-Ultra/2
                    Off: HRT MS DAC, USP-1, UPA-2, ERC-1, Ultra10, WAF-1 Ninja+No-Rez
                    Off2: Gizmo, WAF-1
                    TCA: 3x Gizmo 1.0or,5x v1.0M; 5xWAF-1

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                    • #11
                      Thanks guys,

                      What Pioneer model do you recommend?
                      Hugh
                      MELODY US Distributor
                      www.angelcityaudio.com

                      A man is only as good as his words.

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                      • #12
                        Start with the Elite model. I was thinking that it would have to start with the VSX23 to have pre-outs, but looking at the Pioneer site, the base Elite model (VSX21) does have pre-outs:

                        http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...VSX-21TXH.Kuro

                        I can't tell if the not-yet-released top-of-the-line non-Elite model (1120) has multi-channel pre-outs or just L/R outs:

                        http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...SX-1120-K.Kuro

                        The Elites come with 2-year warranty vs. the regular model's 1-year warranty.
                        PhenomeNhan Audio Video

                        Your authorized ONIX dealer for the Great States of Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, Montana, Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and Florida.!
                        [email protected]

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mike_TX
                          I'm also looking for an AVR.
                          I just need a 2ch AVR with HDMI switching.
                          Just for my gym setup to use WAF-1's and avoid using stereo speakers.

                          I was consider this:
                          Pioneer VSX-520-K Audio/Video Receiver
                          $200 at Amazon

                          Thoughts?

                          Mike
                          That's interesting...I didn't think HDMI and 2-ch go together :D That would be quite useful for those of us with just 2 speakers in the bedroom. Sounds like a pretty good price...but 20 lbs? One of the cages for my new Melody mono block weighs more than that :D
                          PhenomeNhan Audio Video

                          Your authorized ONIX dealer for the Great States of Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, Montana, Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and Florida.!
                          [email protected]

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                          • #14
                            Ooops...I didn't see those rinky-dink speaker terminals :D I thought it was just a stereo receiver and was wondering why they were advertising 5.1 speaker sets with it :D
                            PhenomeNhan Audio Video

                            Your authorized ONIX dealer for the Great States of Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, Montana, Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and Florida.!
                            [email protected]

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by PhenomeNhan
                              That's interesting...I didn't think HDMI and 2-ch go together :D That would be quite useful for those of us with just 2 speakers in the bedroom. Sounds like a pretty good price...but 20 lbs? One of the cages for my new Melody mono block weighs more than that :D
                              Originally posted by PhenomeNhan
                              Ooops...I didn't see those rinky-dink speaker terminals :D I thought it was just a stereo receiver and was wondering why they were advertising 5.1 speaker sets with it :D
                              Remember my qualifier as just looking for something for HDMI switching and sound better than my TV speakers -- that part should be easy.

                              I don't need 5.1/7.1, Audyssey, etc. but a lot of stuff comes with that even if not needed.

                              Mike
                              HT Gear (AVS Link)
                              Rk: MA WR-37-32
                              Pwr: 20A, Surge-X SEQ, M1500-UPS
                              Proj: JVC RS20, 128" 2.4:1 CaradaBW, ISCOIIIL, CineSlide, RadianceXE
                              Cbl: DirectTV C31/700 Genie receiver
                              Rec: 5308CI + XPA-3
                              BR: Oppo BDP-103
                              Gm: 360 Pro
                              LR/C: RS1KSig/RSC200Sig
                              S/R: RSS300/RS250MkII
                              Sub: SVS PB12-Ultra/2
                              Off: HRT MS DAC, USP-1, UPA-2, ERC-1, Ultra10, WAF-1 Ninja+No-Rez
                              Off2: Gizmo, WAF-1
                              TCA: 3x Gizmo 1.0or,5x v1.0M; 5xWAF-1

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