Oppo BDP-80

[Mike_TX]

UPDATES:
- Announcement (Broadcast News) - Link
- Engadget - Link
- Mini review here: Link
- Gonk's Review - Link
- (AVS) Blu Ray Player Synthetic and Real World Tests Comparisons - Link
- DIY region mod kit - Link

- Oppo comparison 83 vs. 80 - Link


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People have probably already seen the AVS thread, but...

Oppo BDP-80
Link
$289

Overview
The BDP-80 is a full-featured universal Blu-ray Disc™ player that supports BD Profile 2.0 (BD-Live and BonusView), DVD-Video, DVD-Audio, Super Audio CD (SACD), HDCD, CD and other popular media formats such as AVCHD, MKV video files, digital photos and music. Sharing the same decoder and similarly optimized firmware as OPPO’s award-winning BDP-83, the BDP-80 features fast disc load times, quick response to user operations, and robust audio and video controls. In contrast to the BDP-83, which utilizes an onboard VRS by Anchor Bay video processor, the BDP-80 design has been optimized for use as a digital audio/video transport, emphasizing the accuracy of its digital audio/video outputs. At the same time, the BDP-80 is versatile enough to be used as a stand-alone universal Blu-ray player, thanks to its full array of output connections and audio/video decoding capabilities.

For video, the BDP-80 features an HDMI 1.3 port that supports 1080p Full HD, 1080p 24Hz, Deep Color and Source Direct modes. Component video, S-Video and Composite video connections are also available for legacy analog displays. In addition to its faithful reproduction of high-definition pictures on Blu-ray Discs, the player can up-convert DVD from standard definition up to 1080p to maximize DVD picture quality. Its "Source Direct" output mode makes the BDP-80 incredibly well suited as a digital transport to feed into an external video processor, a high-end A/V receiver or display device with built-in video processing. Unique features such as subtitle shift and vertical stretch zoom mode makes the player an ideal source component for home theaters with 2.35:1 CIH (Constant Image Height) displays.

For audio, the BDP-80 supports internal decoding and bitstream output of the latest sound formats including Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master audio. The BDP-80 also features a configurable 7.1-channel analog output that can be set as 7.1-channel, 5.1-channel, or stereo. When playing SACD, the BDP-80 can output DSD (Direct Stream Digital) over HDMI in its native format or convert it into high-resolution PCM. For compatibility with many legacy A/V receivers and DACs, the BDP-80 also provides an optical and coaxial digital audio output.

The initial setup of the BDP-80 is a breeze with its Easy Setup Wizard and well-written manual. Setup menus on the player can be accessed without interruption to disc playback. The front and back USB 2.0 ports enable easy access to music, photo and video files. The BDP-80 comes standard with 1GB of internal storage built-in so that no additional memory card or flash drive is needed to use BD-Live and BonusView features. Featuring a brushed metallic front panel and dimmable display, the BDP-80 fits nicely in any home theater environment, ranging from simple to high-end.

Features

Complete Media Support:
•Blu-ray Disc - The high definition Blu-ray Disc™ format provides pristine video and audio quality for your home entertainment.
•BonusVIEW - BD "Profile 1.1" enables "picture-in-picture" and secondary audio features for viewing director or actor commentary while the main movie is playing.
•BD-Live™ - BDP-80 supports BD "Profile 2.0" and contains all necessary hardware - audio/video decoder, Ethernet port, and 1GB of internal storage - for BD-Live.
•DVD Up-Conversion - The BDP-80 up-converts DVD from standard definition up to 1080p output. The up-converted video maximizes DVD picture quality and bridges the visual gap from your current DVD library to Blu-ray discs.
•DVD-Audio - The BDP-80 plays DVD-Audio and supports both stereo and multi-channel high resolution audio programs. Users can select whether to play the DVD-Audio or the DVD-Video portion of the disc.
•SACD - The BDP-80 plays Super Audio CD (SACD) and supports both stereo and multi-channel high resolution audio programs. The BDP-80 can output DSD (Direct Stream Digital) over HDMI in its native format or convert into PCM. (Analog audio output for SACD supports PCM mode only, and is not avialable when DSD over HDMI is in use.)
•Additional Media Formats - Additional disc and file formats, such as audio CD, HDCD, Kodak Picture CD, AVCHD, MKV, and other audio/video/picture files on recorded discs or USB drives can be played back on the BDP-80.


Excellent Video Quality:
•Full HD 1080p Output - The BDP-80 features user selectable video output resolutions, including 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, and up to 1080p 50 or 60Hz.
•True 24p™ Video - Many Blu-ray Discs are recorded at 24 frames per second, the same frame rate as the original movie's theatrical release. The BDP-80 can faithfully redeliver the original frames using 1080p 24Hz output (compatible display required) for smoother motion and a flicker-free, film-like home theater experience.
•Source Direct Mode - For users who wish to use an external video processor, high-end audio/video receiver or display, the BDP-80 offers a ™Source Direct™ mode. The original audio/video content on the discs is sent out with no additional processing or alteration.
•Multiple Zoom Modes - The BDP-80 supports multiple levels of aspect ratio control and image zooming, including a vertical stretch mode for customers with a 2.35:1 CIH (Constant Image Height) display system.
•Subtitle Shift - The BDP-80 is able to shift subtitles up or down on the video screen. This feature makes it possible to see all subtitle text when using a 2.35:1 CIH display system.
•HDMI - HDMI is an all digital interface for the cleanest possible connection. It delivers high-quality digital video and audio through a single cable. The BDP-80 features an HDMI v1.3 output with 30-bit and 36-bit Deep Color support.


High Fidelity Audio:
•Dolby® TrueHD - Dolby TrueHD delivers lossless studio master quality audio designed specifically for high definition entertainment. The BDP-80 supports bit-stream output of Dolby TrueHD via its HDMI 1.3 output. It can also internally decode Dolby TrueHD into LPCM and output via HDMI or the 7.1ch analog audio output terminals. (Dolby Digital and Dolby Digital Plus audio formats are also supported.)
•DTS-HD Master Audio™ - DTS-HD Master Audio delivers an auditory experience that matches the lifelike images of high-definition video with up to 7.1 channels that are bit-for-bit identical to the studio master. The BDP-80 supports bit-stream output of DTS-HD Master Audio. It can also internally decode DTS-HD Master Audio and output via HDMI or the 7.1ch analog audio output terminals. (DTS-HD High Resolution Audio and DTS Digital Surround are also supported.)
•7.1-Channel Analog Output - Individual analog 7.1-channel surround outputs are ideal to connect to a 7.1-channel or 5.1-channel surround sound system. The BDP-80 delivers an immersive surround experience. For users with a stereo sound system, the 7.1-channel analog output can be configured to down-mix the surround audio into stereo.
•Digital Optical and Coaxial Outputs - For easy connection to more traditional A/V receivers, the BDP-80 features both optical and coaxial outputs for digital audio.


Ultimate Convenience:
•Dual USB Ports - Two USB 2.0 high speed ports are provided, one on the front panel and one on the back. Users can enjoy high definition video, high resolution photos and music directly from their USB drives.
•PAL/NTSC Conversion - The BDP-80 supports NTSC and PAL systems for both disc playback and video output. It can also convert content of one system for output in another. (Subject to DVD and BD region restrictions.)
•Glow-in-the-Dark Remote Control - The BDP-80 comes with a remote control with glow-in-the-dark buttons. With its ergonomic button layout and clear labeling, operating the Blu-ray Disc player is easy and intuitive.
•Universal Power Supply - The BDP-80 features a wide-range world power supply that is compatible with the AC power of all regions. No worries about damaging the player due to incorrect power voltage.
•HDMI CEC - HDMI Consumer Electronics Control simplifies the home theater by allowing a single remote control to operate multiple devices.

[Mike_TX]

Here is a good mini-summary:
Link (gonk @ AVS)

- BDP-80: entry-level player (SoC handles video processing, basic analog output)
- BDP-83: upgraded video processing, upgraded analog output, fancier faceplate
- BDP-83SE: further upgraded analog output and upgraded power supply


Also of note...
Link

"Wait until Monday. The beta testers will be able to say more after the official announcement."

[gonk]

I'll probably have a link ready for sharing on Monday... ;)

[Mike_TX]

I'll probably have a link ready for sharing on Monday... ;)

Cool.
This might be my go to rec player for relatives or 2nd systems.

Mike

[gonk]

Certainly. It's going to be my recommendation in many cases.

[m-fine]

This looks like a much better player option than the 83 for most users. Upgrade your pre-pro to do the DAC and skip the analog outs on the players. Keeping the analog signal chain short still has benefits, and good digital to analog pre-pro will improve all of your sources, whereas the 83se approach puts money where it can only impact media from that player.

The only way I could see myself being tempted by a BDP player with a good analog section would be if it it had a high quality analog volume control (post bit perfect DAC) and 7.1 balanced outputs. In that case I would run the player straight to the amps (or to self powered speakers) for a super simple and clean one source system.

[cburbs]

I have a Oppo DV-983H that I used to use with my Panny Front Projector. Since we moved and I have sold off my Panny for now as it doesn't work for our rental place I am using it with my Sony 46" LCD. I wonder if I should maybe consider the new Oppo as my first jump into Blue Ray and sell the 983 off...oh decisions.

[Mike_TX]

I have a Oppo DV-983H that I used to use with my Panny Front Projector. Since we moved and I have sold off my Panny for now as it doesn't work for our rental place I am using it with my Sony 46" LCD. I wonder if I should maybe consider the new Oppo as my first jump into Blue Ray and sell the 983 off...oh decisions.

Someone noted on the AVS thread that the 983's were still selling at very good prices (sometimes over cost).
So, yes, I would sell it and upgrade.

I hope you are doing well settling in to your new place.

Mike

[gonk]

The way used OPPO players have been selling lately, you could probably sell the 983H for almost enough to get a BDP-83. I sold a 981HD last month for $299 using Amazon.com Marketplace.

[cburbs]

Someone noted on the AVS thread that the 983's were still selling at very good prices (sometimes over cost).
So, yes, I would sell it and upgrade.

I hope you are doing well settling in to your new place.

Mike

I saw one on audiogon for $300. I see another one listed at $315. I also did see that note a while back about getting decent sale prices on the 983 over at AVS.
I see a 981 on videogon for $299...not saying they will get that. On ebay the 981s have been selling at $125 - 300.

[obie_fl]

I really like the specs on the BDP-80 should be another hit for Oppo. Only thing keeping me from replacing the 83 in the HT is the lack of IR input. I hate sticky front emitters. :hissyfit: The 83 would mate well with the Plasma upstairs.

[obie_fl]

This looks like a much better player option than the 83 for most users. Upgrade your pre-pro to do the DAC and skip the analog outs on the players. Keeping the analog signal chain short still has benefits, and good digital to analog pre-pro will improve all of your sources, whereas the 83se approach puts money where it can only impact media from that player.

Couldn't agree more about the analog, in fact I wouldn't be bothered if they dropped the analog outs completely. However the main difference between the 80 and 83 is the video processing. I imagine there are quite a few people left out there with bigger standard DVD collections then BDs who could still benefit from the 83.

[gonk]

The BDP-83 is a great product for DVD. The BDP-80, however, has the potential to become a very appealing fit for folks with outboard video processing. Anthem D2 owners, for example, could use the "source direct" output mode and let the Gennum do all the processing without having to buy a BDP-83 (and this an ABT2010). Sort of like the 970HD and 980H did before...

[dvenardos]

Looks like Oppo is doing a great job of covering all the basis. The BDP-83SE is slated for my system and is going to be a favorite for audio mainly systems, but the BDP-80 will probably be their best selling unit.

Here is a good mini-summary:
Link (gonk @ AVS)

- BDP-80: entry-level player (SoC handles video processing, basic analog output)
- BDP-83: upgraded video processing, upgraded analog output, fancier faceplate
- BDP-83SE: further upgraded analog output and upgraded power supply


Also of note...
Link

"Wait until Monday. The beta testers will be able to say more after the official announcement."

[obie_fl]

The BDP-83 is a great product for DVD. The BDP-80, however, has the potential to become a very appealing fit for folks with outboard video processing. Anthem D2 owners, for example, could use the "source direct" output mode and let the Gennum do all the processing without having to buy a BDP-83 (and this an ABT2010). Sort of like the 970HD and 980H did before...

So why didn't you tell me that before I bought the BDP-83? You're just an Oppo salesdroid/fanboi in my book. :assshake: I guess I really screwed up since I replaced my 970 with the BDP-83. I never paid close enough attention to that last digit in the model numbers. Luckily they took the IR input out of the BDP-80 or I'd really be PO'ed at the wasted $$$ I spent on that useless ABT.

To get semi-serious for a moment I know at least one high profile Oppo/Anthem owner (Bob P) who actually uses the ABT processor instead of the Gennum. I'm still using the D2's Gennum with the Oppo in Source Direct, maybe I'll have to give the ABT in the Oppo a shot.