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    I'm looking for the best value in an AVR as the lead building block for my system. I like to listen to 2Ch 70% and 30% HT. I would add an amplifier later. What AVR's have the cleanest preamp section? What should I be looking for? My room is 14X24 and I have Rocket 850's and an HSU VT3. I'll add the Bigfoot center and make use of some older speakers in the rear until I can upgrade. From reading the threads here finding a used 3 channel amp to add later won't be too exspensive.

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    You should probably provide a price range, but the best mass-market AVR's for music right now, IMO, are built by Marantz.

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    • #3
      I agree with the above poster that stating a price range would help.

      I bought the Yamaha 663 about a year ago for under $400. It has preouts, most of the latest hd formats, and a few other goodies. The downside imo is it only has 2 hdmi inputs. It has preouts and many use with emotiva amps with success. This is what I plan to do in the future.

      I can't comment on the new 665 model, but it seems they have skimped on the amp for a few other features (mainly more hdmi inputs).

      The Pioneer 1018 is another great choice. Same thing happened with the newer 1019 model though, the amp section seems downgraded.

      The Onkyo 805/806 models would be another choice. These actually have a pretty strong amp section, especially for their pricepoint.

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      • #4
        I have the 1018, a great choice for what you want, but you can't find them anymore it seems.

        The 1019 is a continuation of the 919, not the 1018, as such, no pre-outs.
        There's a fine line between gardening and Madness.
        -Cliff Clavin

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        • #5
          Yup I need to post a price range. Howse about less than $600.

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          • #6
            hi there Cheeseboy......did you ever get the 6s ??

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            • #7
              Originally posted by soundofrockets
              hi there Cheeseboy......did you ever get the 6s ??

              Nope, though I have over come the WAF. We are closing on a new home in 5 days.. The great room is much better suited to the 6's. I really like my 850's today and will be satisfied for at least another year or two. I'm getting ready to move to a real HT set up. I did pick up an HSU sub. I like it alot for music. I'm getting the electrician in the family to help me prewire. I'm stoked about this because the room is totally ripe for HT. My thoughts now are turned to an AVR I can expand upon. If she can remodel the bathroom I think I should be able to remodel the system for HT. Just my thinking here. The other choice would be to stay just in Stereo with LS6's.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jephdood
                You should probably provide a price range, but the best mass-market AVR's for music right now, IMO, are built by Marantz.

                What defining thing makes the Marantz line more musical?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Interspy24
                  I agree with the above poster that stating a price range would help.

                  I bought the Yamaha 663 about a year ago for under $400. It has preouts, most of the latest hd formats, and a few other goodies. The downside imo is it only has 2 hdmi inputs. It has preouts and many use with emotiva amps with success. This is what I plan to do in the future.

                  I can't comment on the new 665 model, but it seems they have skimped on the amp for a few other features (mainly more hdmi inputs).

                  The Pioneer 1018 is another great choice. Same thing happened with the newer 1019 model though, the amp section seems downgraded.

                  The Onkyo 805/806 models would be another choice. These actually have a pretty strong amp section, especially for their pricepoint.
                  The Emotiva Amps seem to be reccommended quite often and rated well by those that own them. They are high on my list.

                  How many HDMI inputs are enough? What is the difference beween 1.2 and 1.3?

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                  • #10
                    have you thought about the DTC Integra 9.9 or whatever their newer model is ???

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                    • #11
                      I'm not familiar with them. Is Intega the upper line made by Onkyo?

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                      • #12
                        Yeah, the DHC-9.9 is a great product for the money. I like mine well enough that I haven't thought about upgrading since I got it, which is saying a lot for me in this hobby! Yes, Integra is Onkyo's 'higher end' counterpart.

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                        • #13
                          I have a Pioneer 1018 with about 10 hours of use.

                          Might be willing to part with it. I upgraded to seperates so I don't need it anymore.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Cheeseboy
                            The Emotiva Amps seem to be reccommended quite often and rated well by those that own them. They are high on my list.

                            How many HDMI inputs are enough? What is the difference beween 1.2 and 1.3?
                            I think bang for the buck the emotivas are the clear leader for seperate multi-channel amps.

                            Hdmi inputs depend on how many sources you plan to connect. For me it's simple, the tv/sat box and my ps3. You can actually buy an hdmi switcher for about $30-40 and will then have 4-5 inputs if needed. Most of the newer receivers will have at least 3 hdmi inputs.

                            1.3 is the latest version of hdmi. I don't know the differences, but being the latest version I'd get this. Most of the newer receivers will be 1.3.

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                            • #15
                              You could also think about the Onkyo Pro PR-SC885. Here is a thread from a few months ago. You might still find one available.

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