Green Blacks

[tesseract]

I have asked this question a couple of times in the proper AVS thread, but haven't received a reply. Anyway, lots of helpful, knowledgeable guys here, so I'll pose this question here.

I am not really sure that it is the TV at all. The problem is, I am getting dark green blotches in the blacks. I only see this when a scene is fading in or out, then the green fades to the proper black. Anybody have any ideas why there is green in the blacks when I am watching 480p DVD's? I haven't noticed this on OTA (no cable) broadcasts, but I really haven't had a lot of time to watch this thing.

Is it the TV (Vizio E550VL) the source (a Marantz universal player with Faroudja DCDi processing) or the HDMI cable?

I am almost 3 weeks into the 30 day return policy, so I don't have long to decide.

Thanks guys.

[Mike4AU]

Return the TV now. Do not take a chance if it is something other than the TV.

[Drunkonjack]

Agree return imediatly :tanks alot:

[tthurman]

I concur

[persisting1]

I'm not sure what kind of panel that TV uses, but if it's a VA panel type (S-PVA/MVA), then it could be color shifting. If your last TV was a plasma, then you'll be sensitive to this. I'm not a fan of VA panels. I only buy IPS LCDs.

As it's been stated. Return it.

[tesseract]

Thanks for your feedback, guys. I might be mistaken about the return policy, it may be 90 days (Wal-Mart). I'll check for sure tomorrow. Man, I hate buying anything from Wally World, I truly do. But they do have a great extended warranty price and return policy.

I'm not sure what kind of panel that TV uses, but if it's a VA panel type (S-PVA/MVA), then it could be color shifting. If your last TV was a plasma, then you'll be sensitive to this. I'm not a fan of VA panels. I only buy IPS LCDs.

I just came from a good ole CRT tele.

The Vizio is my first flat screen and a cheap TV. I doubt that the panel is IPS, and it is probably an Acer panel.

Color shifting, interesting. I should mention that the black letterboxes do not have this problem, just the main image and only when the scene is really dark, or fading in or out. This kinda makes me question whether it is the TV or not. Would color shifting affect the letterboxes? :scratchchin:

I have a couple of other DVD players, I may have to give them a whirl. I'll try the HDMI, component, and composite inputs as well, just to make sure.

I would like to reach the root cause before throwing down a countermeasure like returning the TV. Any other ideas about what could cause the green blacks? :no clue:

[gonk]

Try a different source. Faroudja chips were notorious for having a green push, and that's possibly what you're seeing.

[persisting1]

Seems like this TV does have color shifting issues. Blacks tend to get washed out.

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...-34118523.html

If your TV doesn't have direct sunlight on it, look into a used Pioneer Kuro plasma. Some of the best blacks you'll see.

[tesseract]

Try a different source. Faroudja chips were notorious for having a green push, and that's possibly what you're seeing.

Thanks, Gonk. I was thinking (hoping) that it could be the processing in the source. I have all of the processing on the panel shut off, it just looks better that way.

Here is what I am seeing currently. Fade to black scenes:





I will have to try this movie in another DVD player this evening.

[tesseract]

Seems like this TV does have color shifting issues. Blacks tend to get washed out.

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/vizio-e550vl/4505-6482_7-34118523.html

If your TV doesn't have direct sunlight on it, look into a used Pioneer Kuro plasma. Some of the best blacks you'll see.

Is Kuro available again? I would almost put off buying the 18.T (again :hissyfit:) to upgrade to that, if it were not for my very bright living room during the day.

The Vizio isn't great with blacks, but wouldn't the letterboxes show the "color shifting" too, if that was the problem?

[tesseract]

Played the same fade to black scene through my PS2 at 480i. Very little to no green in the black. Somewhat encouraging. I'll have to dig out my other 480p player and try this now.

[HuskerOmaha]

Kuro

Yes, you need to get one, and put off the 18.T so you can dial mine in. :saywhat:


http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...nt/Televisions

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...All-Categories

I think this is what you were talking about, right? I almost bought one before my SHARP Aquos....

EDIT: I can really only find some on ebay...but haven't looked really hard yet...

[persisting1]

tesseract, you weren't kidding about the green. I've seen something similar to this, but it had to do with a bad connection to my satellite. That looks really bad. I'd return that today if possible.
The worst thing is that you get another TV. If the problem is corrected, then you know it was the TV. If not, then go from there.

I'm not sure about the letterboxes. Since the pixels stay a constant black, they wouldn't get smeared.

[persisting1]

Your LCD looks to have a lot of backlight bleeding. That's never a good thing.

[tesseract]

The point and shoot ISO is exaggerating the backlight and there is reflection of my white walls a bit.

First thing I did with this panel was check the bleed, it was terrible at first. Then I massaged the screen with a microfiber cloth, it improved 1000%. I now have very minimal in the bottom corners, normal for an LCD, especially at this price. Nothing that concerns me, I have seen much worse. The green appears to be the Farajouda processing at work.

My biggest issue now is the RCA audio outs have an issue that is well documented over on AVS. They don't like to come on! One of the main reasons I bought this TV, analog outs are disappearing and I need them.

Looks like Sony may be my only option if this panel doesn't make the grade. And that will eat into my audio budget. :sigh: