Patio Room design question

[dvenardos]

Getting started on my landscaping and patio plans and I wanted to get your guys thoughts on an enclosed patio that is on the side of the house (think family room). Currently, I am not using it (well storage room). It is one of those old aluminum patio rooms with cracked acrylic glass windows. It is actually permitted and I looked up the code for patio rooms and the walls are supposed to be 75% glass.

I was looking at sunroom kits but they are insanely expensive (by my standards), then I was thinking what about building around sliding glass patio doors. :scratchchin: The patio room has two walls (butts against house and garage) 8' and 18' with 7' tall walls (sits under the eaves on the side of the house). I could put one sliding glass door in one wall and two in the other, build a flat roof and call it a day.

http://www.homedepot.com/Doors-Windows-Doors-Exterior-Doors-Patio-Doors/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xhcZarqn/R-202035970/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

Am I :crazy:?

[persisting1]

Wow Don. Are there enough hours in the day for all your projects? :goodvibes:

Well, since we live in a place that only has two seasons (sunny and then those few days when that wet stuff falls) you can probably get away with a flat roof. Water damage is a pain though.

Good luck with this. Not only will it make a great place to spend hot summer nights, but it'll also add to the value of your house "thumbsup:

[dvenardos]

They tell me I have mild ADD. :D

[django1]

Flat roof with a drain? Sounds like my "people port" with patio doors. Pictures?

[dvenardos]

Okay, but keep in mind I haven't done any work on the exterior of my home and it needs lots of work. :embarass:

Here is the existing patio room.




Here is the garage from the front.


Topside view, you can see where my garage roof is leaking.


This is the stuff I want to do the roof with. Very popular in England where they have lots of flat roofs. No seams and lasts forever.

http://www.flatroofsolutions.com/Black-EPDM.php

Good info from the brits.

http://www.diy-flat-roof.com/

I plan on coating with this.

http://www.liquid-roof.com/

This is what I did on Saturday.
One side of my house no sidewalk.


Other side had sidewalk and retaining wall that was ugly and that everyone and his brother would sit on. Rental yard gave me the bad jackhammer and that pissed me off so I took it back, had them refund me and went to work with my sledgehammer and breaker bar.

[django1]

Man Don, you are a busy guy!

That roofing material looks cool.
I don't see a problem with your project for the patio room if you keep the upright between the two windows on the side.

[dvenardos]

Side meaning the long wall or the short wall? The two patio walls that are there now are thin aluminum so it is a tear down and rebuild.

I don't see a problem with your project for the patio room if you keep the upright between the two windows on the side.

[django1]

Side meaning the long wall or the short wall? The two patio walls that are there now are thin aluminum so it is a tear down and rebuild.

Oh! Looks like stucco. Hold on, 7 foot high walls? The patio doors are 81.5 inches high. That doesn't leave much room for structure above the door to hold the weight of the roof. Can you go a bit higher? I mean on the long side.

[dvenardos]

The only reason for the 7' walls is because they stuck it under the eaves. I could cut the eaves and then join the patio roof to the house roof right?

edit: or just join the patio roof to the house like they did with the garage. I could just continue the garage roof over the patio.

[django1]

or just join the patio roof to the house like they did with the garage. I could just continue the garage roof over the patio.

Sounds good... Are the patio doors cheap? Here's something a bit different ( I googled "Florida room"):

[dvenardos]

I was looking at those, they call them sunrooms (basically modern versions of what I have) and they are around $5K, which is why I came up with the patio door idea because they are $400 a piece.

Another thought occurred to me. It wouldn't be as nice, but better than what I have now. I could reuse the vinyl roof and move it up and attach it to the house roof instead of having it underneath the eaves. It would extend out an extra 19" but that wouldn't be a big deal (kind of a covered walkway). Spray it underneath with some tiger foam and put some paneling on the bottom. It would get me real walls all around, glass instead of acrylic, and better insulation on the roof.

Sounds good... Are the patio doors cheap? Here's something a bit different ( I googled "Florida room"):

[dvenardos]

I found these windows that look like they would work better and would be cheaper.

http://www.homedepot.com/Doors-Windows-Windows-Gliders/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xhcZar7z/R-202035928/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

They would look similar to this.


This is my house plan BTW. You can see why I want to knock out the pop in for the front door and move it back. It would really open up the living room and I could fit a love seat where the door is now.