Lesnar or Carwin, whose side are you on?

[LoudandClear]

In anticipation of UFC116 tonight and possibly the biggest fight in the heavyweight division of the UFC, who are you hoping will win and why?

I'm rooting for Carwin. Why, I think he is an intelligent fighter and a better spokesperson for the sport! Brock has too big of an ego in my opinion. I don't like how he acted after he beat Mir in UFC100.... too much like WWE crap.

Mike

[django1]

I don't follow MMA too much but Lesnar is not very likable. Pretty incredible that he made the transition from rasslin though. Don't know the other guy but hope he wins...

[Hugh]

+1

Ditto

In anticipation of UFC116 tonight and possibly the biggest fight in the heavyweight division of the UFC, who are you hoping will win and why?

I'm rooting for Carwin. Why, I think he is an intelligent fighter and a better spokesperson for the sport! Brock has too big of an ego in my opinion. I don't like how he acted after he beat Mir in UFC100.... too much like WWE crap.

Mike

[tesseract]

Pretty incredible that he made the transition from rasslin though.

Wrestling is the oldest and most effective martial art. If you don't know how to grapple, best not show up at a MMA fight. I know... 'rasslin' isn't wrestling, but both fighters have illustrious "real" wrestling backgrounds.

I am impartial, I don't follow the sport or know either opponent. I did a quick Wikipedia read on Carwin, the guy has an awesome record. The fact that Carwin is an engineer would make him quite a formidable wrestler, I would think.

"The (Mir) bout also marked the longest fight of Carwin's career at 3 minutes and 48 seconds into the first round via stoppage."

Lesnar was unable to defeat Mir. Looks to be a good fight though, as he is ranked #1, undefeated Carwin is #5 (Sherdog).

[tesseract]

Ooops.... too late to catch the fight. :D

Winner: Brock Lesnar via arm triangle submission, Rd. 2, 2:19

[LoudandClear]

The fact that Carwin is an engineer would make him quite a formidable wrestler, I would think.

Wow, how does one connect Wrestling with being an engineer? I'm interested in the connection?

Carwin punched the snot out of Lesnar :dizzy: and had him running and curling up like a baby but he couldn't finish him off and the round ended. Bad thing for Carwin is that he threw about 60 hard punches in the first round and cramped up afterwards. Literally punched himself out. Lesnars face looked like ground beef but he weathered the storm and got a little credibility from me for beating a legitimate contender. Up until this point he was fighting people on the downward slide of their career.

Lesnar was less cocky afterwards compared to his other wins but still the same old WWE Brock. I guess I'll never like him but I do give him some kudos :applause:

Shane will be back for another try in a year or so.

[tesseract]

Wow, how does one connect Wrestling with being an engineer? I'm interested in the connection?

The ability to solve problems quickly is an engineering trait. To apply simple machines (levers) to the problem is slightly helpful. To think linearly and plan each move to lead to another to reach the goal of submission, or KO.

KO's generally happen by chance, though.

[Steve_vai_rules]

The ability to solve problems quickly is an engineering trait. To apply simple machines (levers) to the problem is slightly helpful. To think linearly and plan each move to lead to another to reach the goal of submission, or KO.

KO's generally happen by chance, though.

unless you are shogun, machida, silva, or BJP, or G S P! etc. etc.

having spent a wee bit o' time doing combat sports a KO can be equally hard to achieve as a submission... It all depends on a number of factors just like submissions.. watching MMA be it ufc, or other i have countless submissions that just kinda "happen".. They aren't really planned its just someone gains an advantage realizes it then acts on it... Which really is the goal of most fighting techniques these days.. well combat sport techniques and actual combat techniques (read krav maga). It's all about taking advantage of a situation and reacting to changes versus trying to plot and plan your way through a fight.. Though neither is a skill that any good fighter can lack.. Although there are some who make a career of it (i would say fedor is the king of just being situationally aware and knowing how to take advantage of anything)...

anyways, yay lesnar.. i liked carwin but i knew that big farmer would take it... can't beat farm strength ya' know?! :P


Matt

[tesseract]

Let me put it another way. Submissions are generally lined up move by move. KO's generally happen by chance. Luck can play a role in either instance, but you still have to know how to take advantage of the situation and then continue to work towards your goal.

Wrestling and Krav Maga is based on a series of moves used in succession to achieve the end result, a superior position. Which moves will take you there, and how quickly one determines and implements them as the game changes... this is the key to success.

[LoudandClear]

I see your connection.... both require methodical thinking. Thanks for explaining because I am an engineer and a wrestler, or was a wrestler in my younger years and I was surprised you made the correlation of the two.

[PhenomeNhan]

I was going for Lesnar, but after I saw some Carwin highlights, I figured he would be a much better puncher than Lesnar. Althought I wanted Lesnar to win, simply because that was my pick from the get-go, I thought Carwin was a real threat. Man did Carwin take it to him. But Lesnar showed 2 things in that fight - ability to take a good beating and not give up and ability to add to his arsenal. Winning by submission--who'd da thunk? :)

Hey, don't knock the rasslin' stuff. It is pretty silly a lot of times, but they do entertain and gave us some of the most memorable 'characters' :) Without Gorgeous George, for example, Muhammed Ali may not have been as entertaining a character.