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  • Good reading for those who attended our November 2009 GTG

    Hi guys - Several forum members attended the November 2009 GTG at our place. When this GTG was scheduled, we were supposed to have had a few days to play with what was supposed to be properly working Beta amplifiers.

    The CS-10.2 was a properly working unit, right down to the needed eq curve.

    This thread is to talk about the CS-18.1's you experenced.

    Here is a breakdown as to what happened ...

    1. I never saw the two CS-18.1's until an hour before the GTG.
    2. The amps had the wrong eq curve in them for the drivers.
    3. The amps were not internally sealed, and there was (as I found out Sunday after everyone was gone) a lot of air leaking through the amp's controls and inputs.

    The unit I have been using for the last ten days is a completely different subwoofer than everyone saw and heard here.

    It hits faster, tighter, deeper and delivers much more slam than what you heard.

    We were all somewhat underwhelmed in the performance of the 18's at the time.

    I would have posted all this much earlier, but I wanted to make sure our soon to be production units were meeting our design goals.

    They are, and very nicely.

    One other thing I have noticed - the 18 inch drivers do seem to benefit from some break in, just as Danny Richie thought they would.

    I am looking forward to getting a bunch of the CS-18.1's and CS-18.2's into your hands ... and systems. :yes:

    To those who were here - I wish you would have heard what we have now. It's not a small difference. :)

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    "To those who were here - I wish you would have heard what we have now. It's not a small difference."

    In other words, you're an incompetent jerk.

    You make Ajax appear brilliant in comparison.

    Ray is a Rhodes scholar next to you.

    Hell, Texas appears "Einsteinian" in contrast to you.

    Boob!



    :whistle:
    There's a fine line between gardening and Madness.
    -Cliff Clavin

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    • #3
      That's good to know. I was a little iffy on them post gtg, but hoped the amp changes would make a difference. At lower volumes in your big HT room they sounded really nice, but when I paired them with the Onix Monitor 1's in the basement HT they came off as a bit slow, and a touch noisy. (in the not so good way) That was probably caused by the air leakage. The 10.2 as a contrast, was phenomenal sounding in 2.1. If I closed my eyes I could swear I was hearing big floorstanding speakers. The 10.2 impressed with output in HT as well, although it was being absolutely flogged in that big room and driven well outside of linearity. It held up though, and didn't bottom out or anything. If the 18.1's end up being more like the 10.2 but with a bit more of everything, then they'll be excellent indeed.
      Angel City Audio
      East Street Audio

      ACA, Melody, Onix, NuForce, KR Audio

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      • #4
        Originally posted by etcarroll
        You make Ajax appear brilliant in comparison.
        Now this is precisely what I've been telling him for years!!!!!!
        Jack

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        • #5
          Originally posted by etcarroll
          "To those who were here - I wish you would have heard what we have now. It's not a small difference."

          In other words, you're an incompetent jerk.

          You make Ajax appear brilliant in comparison.

          Ray is a Rhodes scholar next to you.

          Hell, Texas appears "Einsteinian" in contrast to you.

          Boob!



          :whistle:

          Heyyyy leave Tejas out of this

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          • #6
            Originally posted by edward
            Heyyyy leave Tejas out of this
            Well................................

            .................ok :shiftyeyes:
            There's a fine line between gardening and Madness.
            -Cliff Clavin

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