This is a great PM (reprinted with permission)

[craigsub]

Hi all ... I received this PM earlier today, and asked the author to call me. The reason I wanted him to call is this gentleman wrote exactly what I want for our forum, and he said it in words that I was struggling for, and was unable to get.

He gave me permission to post his PM with the understanding that his name would not be used.

This, guys, is the blueprint for where we will be by the middle of this month.

The PM:

Craig,

As a new member and very happy customer, I am surprised at the last week's collective set of e-mails. I know you are trying to manage this in the best way possible but perhaps you ought to consider that new customers such as myself are extremely put off by this discussion. It causes us to want to stay as far away as possible both socially and fiscally.

It seems that you may soon be in a position to either let your company live in the past or make a clean break and move forward. I would ask yourself which has the greatest number of customers over the next 5-10 years? I think the answer is obvious and you shouldn't worry about cutting off the discussion at some reasonable point.

I'd post this but don't intend to get flamed by the multiple scorchers out there who apparently have no business but to perpetuate negativity. Feel free to let others know the content of this PM if you feel it is helpful to getting things back on track. Just don't use my name so I don't get attacked.

And I will continue to participate for a while in the hope that the craziness will pass. What a mess...

More sincerely than you know,

XXXXX

[sbisheff]

I'm going to agree with this. I have stayed pretty much out of this whole thing not as a tribute to Mark or because I care about putting my opinions out there, but because I'm not in this hobby for the drama. I'm in this hobby because I love audio and the joy it brings. I really don't care to get into the details of what happened/is going on and get tired of seeing the majority of the top posts at virtually all audio sites being about this.

I hope this can start to be the beginning of the end of this drama.

Scott

[Jed M]

Hi all ... I received this PM earlier today, and asked the author to call me. The reason I wanted him to call is this gentleman wrote exactly what I want for our forum, and he said it in words that I was struggling for, and was unable to get.

He gave me permission to post his PM with the understanding that his name would not be used.

This, guys, is the blueprint for where we will be by the middle of this month.

The PM:

Was it from Lead Suspect? :whistle:

[Lead Suspect]

Was it from Lead Suspect? :whistle:

No.

[dguarnaccia]

I doubly agree. I've stayed out of the mayhem because honestly, that's not why I'm here. I'm here to learn about Craigs products, and audio/home theater in general, and love the fun atmosphere and environment.

I echo the sentiment that it's time to move on.

I'm very excited about the future of TCA and it's products, and look forward to a long and lasting journey together.

Best,

Darren

[sbisheff]

I'm very excited about the future of TCA and it's products, and look forward to a long and lasting journey together.

[cough]Panache[/cough]

:SSH:

[engtaz]

I have to totally agree with the PM.

[DavidJames]

I understand the logic behind the PM but I don't think it's not quite that simple.

If Craig shuts down the conversation then he's subject claims from the mob that he's hiding or ignoring the issue and therefore sympathetic to MLS if not down right supporting him. Those claims will be played out on AH, AVS etc. Should Craig care, that's his call, but it's something to think about.

This could be a good topic for a members only section.

I'm glad the conversations were allowed because it's one place where the mob hasn't completely dominated the conversation.

[hawkeyejw]

Oh, weird. I almost sent this PM...

Dear Bosshole,

I see that for some reason you've spent the past week allowing yourself to be baited into circular arguments.

I'd just like to pass along a message from ol' Gov. Arny. He says,
[IMG]http://www.exit-the-plane.com/images/stevepics/shut_the_****_up2.jpg[/IMG]
and get back to making speakers.

Thanks,
Hawkeyejw

:assshake:

[etcarroll]

The person makes sense.

No need to censor, having the discussion was good, but at some point the discussion needs to be brought to a polite but definate 'end' when it no longer serves any good. I already posted here that I was sick of it, as the OP poointed out, what would a person new to the forum(s) think?

End it all, and get back to the business of making product already.

Gene

[Ajax]

Was it from Lead Suspect? :whistle:

LOL! :rlmfao: I had the same thought.

[ben9732]

This is a private business forum, aligned towrds the sale of TCA products and assocaited gear. There are plenty of general audio forums open and willing to discuss the AV123 debacle if not dedicated to it, so the subject matter should be discussed there.

I think there are more people that come here to piss off Craig then talk audio, so as far as I'm concerned draw the line and let the six people that would normal come to this forum have peace.

OK, manybe it's seven.

[sbisheff]

This is a private business forum, aligned towrds the sale of TCA products and assocaited gear. There are plenty of general audio forums open and willing to discuss the AV123 debacle if not dedicated to it, so the subject matter should be discussed there.

I think there are more people that come here to piss off Craig then talk audio, so as far as I'm concerned draw the line and let the six people that would normal come to this forum have peace.

OK, manybe it's seven.

You forgot me Jack, its 8 :woo:

[lngbruno]

I agree with the PMer. As Judge Judy would say, "put a period at the end of it and move on." Craig, what's done is done, so let's move on to the next chapter of our collective audio journey.

Lou

[ben9732]

OK Skeeter, 8.