After some quiet thought...

[droht]

I'd like to take a minute and offer an apology to a lot of the folks on this forum. After reading Mac's post today about coming to grips with "the whole thing" I really gave it some thought myself. I even went back and read some old posts of mine on the av123 forum. What I realized pretty quickly is that my being sucked in there is probably the most embarassing thing I have done in my life. It just makes me feel stupid.

It is pretty safe to say that most of the vitriol I have brought to this "discussion" has been misplaced anger. I realize that we all have come to grips with this at different times and in different ways. There is nothing wrong with that. I am sorry that I have not communicated in a much better fashion over these many months.

Anyway, enough of the girly-man talk about feelings. Please carry on.

[quadman]

I'd like to take a minute and offer an apology to a lot of the folks on this forum. After reading Mac's post today about coming to grips with "the whole thing" I really gave it some thought myself. I even went back and read some old posts of mine on the av123 forum. What I realized pretty quickly is that my being sucked in there is probably the most embarassing thing I have done in my life. It just makes me feel stupid.

It is pretty safe to say that most of the vitriol I have brought to this "discussion" has been misplaced anger. I realize that we all have come to grips with this at different times and in different ways. There is nothing wrong with that. I am sorry that I have not communicated in a much better fashion over these many months.

Anyway, enough of the girly-man talk about feelings. Please carry on.

Dean.... you are human my friend. Just as we all are (yes, even Mark). And that means frailty, less than perfection....etc. No one is really upset with you. At least I'm not. You starting this thread and offering up that bit of humility shows that you are indeed a good person as well.

At least you are in my book.

[arthurs]

I'm upset with you Dean....making me feel my feelings and all....:crying: I'm gonna go rub some dirt on them and hold them way down inside from now on like I'm supposed to.... :angel:

Seriously, you're good bud, John hits the nail on the head with the human and frail part, we all are.

[Steve_vai_rules]

I was saying this yesterday, glad to see some people are picking up on this and realizing that there is a lot of pent up anger towards this subject and it is being focused at people who aren't necessarily deserving of it..


Matt

[Jed M]

Dean, buddy... pick up the remote and change it from lifetime please.

In all seriousness, I couldn't agree more. Usually there is plenty of blame to go around but in this case there just isn't. We were all taken for a ride. You never ever think it will happen to you and I still have trouble believing it. Over the last year I have tried to keep most of my anger directed at Mark, but I know I haven't been perfect so I apologize to anybody who thinks I attacked them unfairly.

[Fatcat]

"As their hearts grew 3 sizes larger that day it gave them all the strength of ten Grinches, plus two."

Best......Carlo.

[django1]

Great post Dean.

[etcarroll]

+1 for John.

[carpediem]

I'm upset with you Dean....making me feel my feelings and all....:crying: I'm gonna go rub some dirt on them and hold them way down inside from now on like I'm supposed to.... :angel:

Seriously, you're good bud, John hits the nail on the head with the human and frail part, we all are.

I wondered about you. How often do you use dirt, when you are feeling your feelings?

Hope life is treating you well, and you are not having to travel much. Have not communicated with you in a while.

[arthurs]

I wondered about you. How often do you use dirt, when you are feeling your feelings?

Hope life is treating you well, and you are not having to travel much. Have not communicated with you in a while.

Hi K, hope you have been well also. Not too much travel, but certainly have been busy with work and personal.

I usually use dirt when I am feeling my feelings, but sometimes on the deeper or more emotional ones, I have to use duct tape....:yes:

[SnowmaNick]

To droht, I think many of us have said things and acted in ways we don't look at fondly in retrospect. I know I have eaten crow, as well as had to step back and think about some of the issues before. Its a great chance to gain some introspection and perspective on ourselves.

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I usually use dirt when I am feeling my feelings, but sometimes on the deeper or more emotional ones, I have to use duct tape....:yes:

So many bad images popped into my head there. Time to go get a drink and vomit.

[arthurs]

So many bad images popped into my head there. Time to go get a drink and vomit.

You made the images bad..... :raspberry:

[NicolasKL]

I realize that we all have come to grips with this at different times and in different ways. There is nothing wrong with that.

I think there is something wrong with it if some peoples inability to stop defending Mark has caused people additional pain or allowed Mark additional opportunities to take advantage of people.

In a thread at Ascend someone stated that, after most of this had already come to light, people at avs and Tca had PMed him and told him that mark had made good on his promises and that the whole raffle thing was blown out of proportion by People with personal vendettas against MLS. There is something VERY wrong with that.

[Jason]

I for one appreciate the spirit of this thread. I've tried to be more quiet that usual about this topic, as I'm not as much of a 'victim' in this ordeal as most are. Also, I'm trying to let my emotions run their gamut inwardly.

Thanks Dean for reminding me to be more introspective in my life and relationships

[Mac 11700]

I'd like to take a minute and offer an apology to a lot of the folks on this forum. After reading Mac's post today about coming to grips with "the whole thing" I really gave it some thought myself. I even went back and read some old posts of mine on the av123 forum. What I realized pretty quickly is that my being sucked in there is probably the most embarassing thing I have done in my life. It just makes me feel stupid.

It is pretty safe to say that most of the vitriol I have brought to this "discussion" has been misplaced anger. I realize that we all have come to grips with this at different times and in different ways. There is nothing wrong with that. I am sorry that I have not communicated in a much better fashion over these many months.

Anyway, enough of the girly-man talk about feelings. Please carry on.

Dean..we all should take some time to evaluate ourselves every now and then..and anyone thinking otherwise is only condemning themselves in the long run. I think I learned my lesson well enough this time. This isn't an easy thing to do when you think your smart enough to keep from being conned as I was..I was reminded of this again late yesterday afternoon by a very nice gentleman named Hugh..

Mac