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While it may be ballsy ... a couple of points to consider ...
1. OPPO looks REALLY good here (as an aside, I just got the new 83 player on Friday, and it is a LARGE step up from the Samsung it replaced).
2. Can someone get Lexicon to grab our CS-18.2 and market it as a subwoofer with "4 times the output of a Velodyne DD-18 for $6000" ??
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Originally posted by craigsubWhile it may be ballsy ... a couple of points to consider ...
1. OPPO looks REALLY good here (as an aside, I just got the new 83 player on Friday, and it is a LARGE step up from the Samsung it replaced).
2. Can someone get Lexicon to grab our CS-18.2 and market it as a subwoofer with "4 times the output of a Velodyne DD-18 for $6000" ??
:brainiac::angel:
The CS-18.2 would need to be kept identical and encased in a fancy alluminum shell.
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I've been following this story all over the web. Pretty funny stuff. The best by far is the response from the owner of home theater review when their review was caught praising the Lex unit for being superior to the Oppo BD-83SE, so basically saying that the Oppo BD-83 is superior to the upgraded BD-83SE. So far he's blamed sabotage by competitors, attacked readers, and shut down comments on the article.
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Especially considering that there are things that they actually could have done to improve the sound:
BTW: nuforce has been consulting for Oppo on their analog sections for quite some time.
Originally posted by hawkeyejwI've been following this story all over the web. Pretty funny stuff. The best by far is the response from the owner of home theater review when their review was caught praising the Lex unit for being superior to the Oppo BD-83SE, so basically saying that the Oppo BD-83 is superior to the upgraded BD-83SE. So far he's blamed sabotage by competitors, attacked readers, and shut down comments on the article.
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It's definitely been making the rounds - I've been following it at several places since I saw the Audioholics review last Friday. Since I've been under the hood of the BDP-83 a couple times (still need to get a wireless thermometer out from in front of the power supply now that the battery has tied), I was very intrigued. On the one hand, I suspect they're making a nice margin on these and their R&D cost must have been sweet. On the other hand, getting caught like this isn't exactly a public relations victory.
Originally posted by craigsubWhile it may be ballsy ... a couple of points to consider ...
1. OPPO looks REALLY good here (as an aside, I just got the new 83 player on Friday, and it is a LARGE step up from the Samsung it replaced).
Originally posted by craigsub2. Can someone get Lexicon to grab our CS-18.2 and market it as a subwoofer with "4 times the output of a Velodyne DD-18 for $6000" ??
:brainiac::angel:
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When you buy anything, you pay for a name. Medicine...clothing...cars...they all do the same practice. Personally, I'm not fond of it...but this isn't an uncommon practice and I think people should be outraged when it happens in any industry. Yes, some have big marketing expenditures but that's the problem...we fall for marketing ploys.
It's the ignorant consumers' fault.
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Originally posted by hawkeyejwThe best by far is the response from the owner of home theater review when their review was caught praising the Lex unit for being superior to the Oppo BD-83SE, so basically saying that the Oppo BD-83 is superior to the upgraded BD-83SE.
I love Oppo.
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Originally posted by django1For a lot of people it's not what they get but how much they paid for it that counts. In this case, as long as they didn't know they were getting ripped off they were probably quite happy with it.
Yep, as thousands of medical studies have documented, placebo affect is real. If paying more makes it sound better to you, then go for it.
I've had a trusty Onkyo SP-1000 handling my universal player duties for many a year now. It was pretty close to top-of-the-line in its day; I wonder how it compares with the newer devices like the Oppo.
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