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    Can I see them? I can't commit to purchase the VS-18.1 until I know it has adequate bracing and I'd also like to see the woofer out of the box as I haven't ever seen a picture posted. And these woofers have been used long enough, it seems by now someone would have posted such pics. This isn't a ploy. I genuinely want to see how well the box and woofer are built so I can make a decision to purchase or not.

  • #2
    Originally posted by WesM228
    Can I see them? I can't commit to purchase the VS-18.1 until I know it has adequate bracing and I'd also like to see the woofer out of the box as I haven't ever seen a picture posted. And these woofers have been used long enough, it seems by now someone would have posted such pics. This isn't a ploy. I genuinely want to see how well the box and woofer are built so I can make a decision to purchase or not.
    I can't find it at the moment, but somewhere on avs and here there are woofer pictures. Can't tell you what the new inside of the cabs look like though.
    -Greg

    Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. - Barry Switzer

    HO's Basement Take 2

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    • #3
      I was able to find pics on AVS including a comparison to the VTF-15H wooer.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by WesM228
        I was able to find pics on AVS including a comparison to the VTF-15H wooer.
        I remember that thread now...
        -Greg

        Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. - Barry Switzer

        HO's Basement Take 2

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        • #5
          The picture of the woofer was from Bossobass, and to my limited knowledge, he hasn't acquired a CHT sub to take a picture of it. If I were a betting man, I'd guess he's found a stock Eminence driver as well as all the stock parameters he probably uses to make judgments of and not the custom driver CHT uses.

          Boober may be able to discuss the robustness of the VS cabinets, I'd guess it doesn't flex to any audible effect. To me, some designs seem over built with needless bracing that adds to cost and weight with questionable performance value.

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          • #6
            Wes - The subwoofer enclosure was done with a 2 inch thick, very high quality, MDF Baffle and the rest with 1 inch thick. The bracing was done to make sure the cabinet is inert.

            Keep in mind that more bracing does not equal better performance. Too much bracing also takes up interior volume, which changes the performance of the sub and adds expense.

            To the driver, I do not know of anyone who has felt compelled to remove one of our drivers and posted pics of the drivers we use.

            We are not permitted to sell the drivers without being in a complete enclosure. We are also not permitted to put raw driver pics on the site or forum. I don't know if anyone has actually pulled a pic of our driver, or if the driver you referenced was another Eminence driver.

            I can tell you that our drivers have an Fs of 19.4 Hz and an X-max of 19 mm. I am not trying to be a smart "alek", but I don't know what performance parameter can be drawn from looking at the picture of a driver.

            We have a full battery of measurements posted here:

            http://www.chasehometheater.com/foru...ead.php?t=4140

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            • #7
              Originally posted by sbdman
              The picture of the woofer was from Bossobass, and to my limited knowledge, he hasn't acquired a CHT sub to take a picture of it. If I were a betting man, I'd guess he's found a stock Eminence driver as well as all the stock parameters he probably uses to make judgments of and not the custom driver CHT uses.

              Boober may be able to discuss the robustness of the VS cabinets, I'd guess it doesn't flex to any audible effect. To me, some designs seem over built with needless bracing that adds to cost and weight with questionable performance value.
              I can definitely vouch for the VS18.1 cabinets. ON my twins, no matter how loud they've gotten or how hard they've been pushed, there is absolutely no vibrations period from the cabinets. Now the drivers themselves, that's another story. :D

              The cabinets feel like mini refrigerators. I'm 100% satisfied with the build quality of the cabinets. I've been curious to see how they look on the inside as well, plus have always been kind of curious to take a gander at the drivers as well, but I'm kind of burnt out on that whole, taking apart my subs after having done that way too many times over the years with my MFW's. :biglaugh:

              If you have any more questions about them Wes, I'll try and answer them the best I can.

              EDIT: Actually, as I'm sitting here thinking about it, I guess my VS18.1's are really more like mini safes... :D

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              • #8
                Originally posted by craigsub
                I can tell you that our drivers have an Fs of 19.4 Hz and an X-max of 19 mm. I am not trying to be a smart "alek", but I don't know what performance parameter can be drawn from looking at the picture of a driver.

                We have a full battery of measurements posted here:

                http://www.chasehometheater.com/foru...ead.php?t=4140
                A picture would be useful. I have a mutant friend that could scan the driver with her mind and determine the tightness of the magnetic gap. This would not be needed if Magneto and I were still friends.
                Kyle Bosso - SOB

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by kwarny
                  A picture would be useful. I have a mutant friend that could scan the driver with her mind and determine the tightness of the magnetic gap. This would not be needed if Magneto and I were still friends.
                  Please tell me you are coming to the KC GTG.
                  -Greg

                  Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. - Barry Switzer

                  HO's Basement Take 2

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by HuskerOmaha
                    Please tell me you are coming to the KC GTG.
                    I'm hoping to take some measurements at TechnoSponge's house that weekend and then catch the carpool :peeping:.

                    I'm pretty sure I have to attend. I was nominated to judge the time domain :D.
                    Kyle Bosso - SOB

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                    • #11
                      I've had my driver out of my ss 18.2, I found both the bracing and the amount of fill to be just right.
                      Current System
                      Amps Sunfire TGA7400
                      Mackie 1400i
                      Crown XLS-1500
                      Receiver:Sunfire TGP5
                      Speakers: Klipsch KLF-30
                      Jamo D8 CEN
                      Chase SS-18.2
                      2x Lilmike Cinema f20

                      Video:Epson 3010 3d 1080p, 130in perforated screen

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by kwarny
                        I was nominated to judge the time domain :D.

                        :rlmfao:

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