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  • What wire are you using for your subs?

    I know this topic has been beaten well, but there seems to be no discussion on this forum.

    I am running 12 gauge to my 18.2's up front, and 16 gauge rat shack in the back. The back speakers are 15 feet from the amps.

    I need to upgrade the back stage but am also thinking about re-wiring my whole system.

    I have narrowed my choices down to Blue Jean/Belden 5000ue 12 gauge that I will either run raw through my binding posts, or terminate w/ banana plugs/spades.

    On the other hand, I was thinking of going with this Canare 4s11 w/ WTB connects: http://www.ramelectronics.net/produc...emId=422739991

    The WTBs are found on cables priced over $1K (which I think is a scam).

    Opinions welcome.

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    Don't waste money on the expensive stuff.
    -Greg

    Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. - Barry Switzer

    HO's Basement Take 2

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    • #3
      Originally posted by HuskerOmaha


      Don't waste money on the expensive stuff.
      I agree....all the double blind comparos say so....however my choices are considered inexpensive. The Belden is 62 cents a foot and is double insulated which is something that is actually beneficial.

      I am thinking of going with Canare 4211 (double insulated quad cable) for $1.12 a foot.

      The really cheap stuff does not last long.

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      • #4
        This is what I use. http://www.woofersetc.com/p-8911-spw...-the-foot.aspx

        For my mains I use this. http://www.mitcables.com/available-i...ker-cable.html

        Per the double blind comparos, I add this... http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...0&postcount=49

        :D

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        • #5
          What wire are you using for your subs?
          12ga. speaker wire from Home Depot. Works great. :)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by tesseract
            Your use of MIT totally contradicts the quote from tesseract.:confused:

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Dr_jitsu
              Your use of MIT totally contradicts the quote from tesseract.:confused:
              The quote was pure satire. More from that fun thread.
              http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...4&postcount=61

              I should make this one into my sig.
              http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...5&postcount=32

              I just... love that place. :D

              Edit: I didn't pay anywhere near $699 for the MIT's.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Dr_jitsu
                I have narrowed my choices down to Blue Jean/Belden 5000ue 12 gauge that I will either run raw through my binding posts, or terminate w/ banana plugs/spades.
                This would be fine for the subs, and more ecomnomical than the Canare from RAM. Just make sure that any wire you choose is oxygen free copper that is NOT in a PVC jacket, reasons why are in the RAM link. Get some gold plated banana plugs or spades for termination.


                On the other hand, I was thinking of going with this Canare 4s11 w/ WTB connects: http://www.ramelectronics.net/produc...emId=422739991

                The WTBs are found on cables priced over $1K (which I think is a scam).

                Opinions welcome.
                This is a great cable, I would like to try it myself... on my mains. It is complete overkill for the subs and rather expensive.

                WBT grip whatever they are attached too, they are one of the best connections out there. I was a welding tech for many years (MIG & resistance), I have seen and measured the effects of poor or tarnished connections.


                All this brings to mind the question... what are you using for interconnects to the Dayton amp and the rest of your system?

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                • #9
                  Use what you feel comfortable with, but yes copper is copper.

                  Soon 2 dts-10 with 75ft runs of 10awg (central rack for amps). I think it is belden we found some cheap. Have some monoprice 14awg for the mains and surrounds. Used ratshack and hd/lowes wire np. Sidebar, I use to love the look on peoples face for car audio to look close and see the store bought 00 welding cable lol. Hey its high current and flexible copper for like 5-10 cents a foot :) . With todays stuff be lucky to find copper cheap.
                  "I should really see what dB levels I'm pushing. Long as it can't foam my beer during a movie we are ok."

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by eljay
                    12ga. speaker wire from Home Depot. Works great. :)
                    Used 12ga from Monoprice.
                    -Greg

                    Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. - Barry Switzer

                    HO's Basement Take 2

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                    • #11
                      I agree with 12 gauge. Don't bother with 14-16 gauge and you won't have to worry about run lengths, impedance, etc...
                      Time waits for no man.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by tesseract
                        This would be fine for the subs, and more ecomnomical than the Canare from RAM. Just make sure that any wire you choose is oxygen free copper that is NOT in a PVC jacket, reasons why are in the RAM link. Get some gold plated banana plugs or spades for termination.


                        This is a great cable, I would like to try it myself... on my mains. It is complete overkill for the subs and rather expensive.

                        WBT grip whatever they are attached too, they are one of the best connections out there. I was a welding tech for many years (MIG & resistance), I have seen and measured the effects of poor or tarnished connections.


                        All this brings to mind the question... what are you using for interconnects to the Dayton amp and the rest of your system?

                        Dayton amps are hoked up w/ Monoprice cables. They are good quality.


                        Oh and yes, I will just get some good quality 12 gauge and some good clips (I can gey some awesome connects cheap) for my subs.

                        SQL and spl are not contingent for subs.

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                        • #13
                          I use 3 different cables, blue jeans 10 gauge(hate it), monoprice 12 gauge(pretty good), and Axiom 12 gauge bulk(the best). IF you don't need to go behind walls then the axiom is very soft, thick, and very easy to terminate. This stuff is very flexible which is great to work with. The blue jeans sucks because it is extremely hard to bend and terminate. I have punctured my fingers many times working with it. The monoprice bends easily and just does what it does, fine cable. If axiom sold 10 gauge of that stuff I would use it exclusively because of the type of copper. The 12 gauge does cost $1/foot and the wire is black. I love it!!

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                          • #14
                            Thanks MK, that Axiom look excellent.

                            I think I will run tyhe spade terminated version for my subs.

                            Which size spade do I need (1/4, 3/8)?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dr_jitsu
                              Thanks MK, that Axiom look excellent.

                              I think I will run tyhe spade terminated version for my subs.

                              Which size spade do I need (1/4, 3/8)?
                              I have never used spades, I don't know.

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