Audyssey MultEQ XT32 + SubEQ HT

[HuskerOmaha]

I'm still trying to figure out what receiver I want to get.

Has anyone out there compared MultEQ XT vs XT32 with the SubEQ HT?

I've read varying degrees of listening differences on avsforum, but not sure if it is worth it to jump to that next level of receiver....

As far as I can tell from reading, with MultEQ XT32 + SubEQ HT, each sub is calibrated separately (like with XT); however, they are also pinged together (similar to using an as-eq1). This final step being that which lets Audyssey to take into consideration the way each sub interacts with each other.

So is it worth it?

When you can grab an Onkyo 3008 (XT 32) out there for $1200, or an Onkyo 1007 (XT) for $669, which becomes the better deal considering the stand alone as-eq1 is more than the difference?

What CS 18 package would work best with this?

[tesseract]

I am hearing that the Pioneer receivers with the Multi-Channel Acoustic Calibration (MCACC) system are playing really well with the CHT speakers.

They also have decent chip amps with low crossover distortion, a rare thing amongst IC amplifiers.

[Mike_TX]

I'm still trying to figure out what receiver I want to get.

Has anyone out there compared MultEQ XT vs XT32 with the SubEQ HT?

I've read varying degrees of listening differences on avsforum, but not sure if it is worth it to jump to that next level of receiver....

As far as I can tell from reading, with MultEQ XT32 + SubEQ HT, each sub is calibrated separately (like with XT); however, they are also pinged together (similar to using an as-eq1). This final step being that which lets Audyssey to take into consideration the way each sub interacts with each other.

So is it worth it?

When you can grab an Onkyo 3008 (XT 32) out there for $1200, or an Onkyo 1007 (XT) for $669, which becomes the better deal considering the stand alone as-eq1 is more than the difference?

What CS 18 package would work best with this?

I was thinking of moving to a Denon 4311CI for the XT32+Sub EQ HT.
You should try the AVS Audyssey thread or the Audyssey forum on their site.
I think the value of both functionalities is dependent on how good or bad an individuals system is, with "system" used as inclusive of room acoustics.
The additional resolution of the XT32 may be more or less useful to people -- but can't hurt.
The Sub EQ HT will be useful to people with 2 subs that are non-co-located.

Mike

[tntbigman23]

Get the XT32 version. Yes, the price is hot right now, but it sure beats buying a seperate sub eq.

http://www.audyssey.com/aboutus/press/326_audyssey-multiple-subwoofer-eq-technology-now-on-avrs-

"Audyssey Sub EQ HT is currently in every AVR that uses MultEQ XT32. These models can be found on our website www.audyssey.com."

This will certainly help when using same subs that are in different room environments due to position (non colocated). Or ppl running different subs (ported and sealed) also exposed to different room characteristics.

[HuskerOmaha]

Thanks guys

I was actually thinking about this setup:

CS-18.T ....2-18's on the SubOut or LFE 1.....RCA to amp then speaker wire to the 2 subs.

VS-18.1.....1-18 ported on the SubOut or LFE 2......RCA to amp then RCA to sub.

This would be of course only if I "needed" or wanted 3 subs down the road...but you would think the Eq would be easier......

Probably going for the Onkyo 3008....Any other suggestions ....Need 9.2 but have the external amp with the Emotiva UPA-7 for my front soundstage..5.1 + Heights....

Chris (Audyssey on avsforum) told me each sub would need its own amp for the SubEQ HT to function properly? I think that is what he told me anyways.....which makes sense to me.

:boom:

[gotchaforce]

heres the nr3008 for $1150 at newegg.. spread it around suckas :hissyfit:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882120158

[Mike_TX]

each sub would need its own amp for the SubEQ HT to function properly

I was actually thinking about this setup:

CS-18.T ....2-18's on the SubOut or LFE 1.....RCA to amp then speaker wire to the 2 subs.

VS-18.1.....1-18 ported on the SubOut or LFE 2......RCA to amp then RCA to sub.

This would be of course only if I "needed" or wanted 3 subs down the road...but you would think the Eq would be easier......

Probably going for the Onkyo 3008....Any other suggestions ....Need 9.2 but have the external amp with the Emotiva UPA-7 for my front soundstage..5.1 + Heights....

Chris (Audyssey on avsforum) told me each sub would need its own amp for the SubEQ HT to function properly? I think that is what he told me anyways.....which makes sense to me.

:boom:

So no "T" for you.
Just make sure to get subs that have their own amps.

Mike

[Mike_TX]

heres the nr3008 for $1150 at newegg.. spread it around suckas :hissyfit:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882120158

No XT32 or SubEQ

Per site:

Audyssey MultEQ XTw/ Dynamic EQ & Dynamic Volume

Mike

[frijoli]

No XT32 or SubEQ

Per site:


Mike

Multieq xt-32 according to this.

http://www.us.onkyo.com/model.cfm?m=TX-NR3008&class=Receiver&p=i

[Mike_TX]

Multieq xt-32 according to this.

http://www.us.onkyo.com/model.cfm?m=...s=Receiver&p=i

Well there you go!
:)

Mike

[HuskerOmaha]

No XT32?

Ya, I've wondered about that too.

Via an email I sent out to Newegg they said the Onkyo does have XT32 and they just have it listed wrong? This was a while ago...

Newegg-$1150 shipped, that is cheaper than B Stock on accessories4less...nice find!

[Mike_TX]

MultEQ XT on Sub EQ

I'm still trying to figure out what receiver I want to get.

Has anyone out there compared MultEQ XT vs XT32 with the SubEQ HT?

I've read varying degrees of listening differences on avsforum, but not sure if it is worth it to jump to that next level of receiver....

As far as I can tell from reading, with MultEQ XT32 + SubEQ HT, each sub is calibrated separately (like with XT); however, they are also pinged together (similar to using an as-eq1).
This final step being that which lets Audyssey to take into consideration the way each sub interacts with each other.

So is it worth it?

When you can grab an Onkyo 3008 (XT 32) out there for $1200, or an Onkyo 1007 (XT) for $669, which becomes the better deal considering the stand alone as-eq1 is more than the difference?

What CS 18 package would work best with this?

I just dug up an old link/info on the various Audyssey options...

Link - Chris Kyriakakis, CTO and co-founder, Audyssey Laboratories

Sorry.. I added to the resolution confusion because I forgot about the firmware upgrade that doubled the resolution of the Subwoofer Equalizer and the AS-EQ1 months ago.
So, the correct numbers are:

MultEQ
Sats: 2x Sub: 128x

MultEQ XT:
Sats: 16x Sub: 128x

MultEQ XT on Sound EQ
Sats: 32x Sub: 256x

MultEQ XT 32
Sats: 512x Sub: 512x

MultEQ XT on Sub EQ
Sats: N/A Sub: 512x

Even though I don't think I have any audio problems in my HT room and have a heavily treated room, the idea of better filter resolution is intriguing.

Mike

*EDIT*
(a few more pertinent posts...)

pepar 7-12-10

Chris, I'm sure that you've studied this. Can you tell us the likelihood of any of this increased resolution improving the sound in a room .. under what circumstances, perhaps?

Audyssey (Chris K.)

It's hard to predict the circumstances.
But, in general, higher resolution means that the filters can correct much finer (narrower) peaks and dips in the low frequency region.
The biggest impact will likely come in the correction of the low frequency range of the satellites where the jump in resolution is very big.

Audyssey Multiple Subwoofer EQ Technology Now on AVRs

[HuskerOmaha]

You are good at search function

That puts it in plain english a little better than most when I've asked about what it would really do.

Knowing that your AVR could have separate control of each sub sounds "better".

But when does having your AVR do too much of this thing become an issue?

I'd like to go with Pioneer, but they don't have this ability and I can't find a 9 channel receiver that isn't $$$$$$$$$$?

Back to Denon/OnkyoMarantz......:dizzy:

[Mike_TX]

That puts it in plain english a little better than most when I've asked about what it would really do.

Knowing that your AVR could have separate control of each sub sounds "better".

But when does having your AVR do too much of this thing become an issue?

I'd like to go with Pioneer, but they don't have this ability and I can't find a 9 channel receiver that isn't $$$$$$$$$$?

Back to Denon/OnkyoMarantz......:dizzy:

The AVRs that have it should have the computer power to handle it.

Mike

[tesseract]

I'm still trying to figure out what receiver I want to get.

Has anyone out there compared MultEQ XT vs XT32 with the SubEQ HT?

I've read varying degrees of listening differences on avsforum, but not sure if it is worth it to jump to that next level of receiver....

As far as I can tell from reading, with MultEQ XT32 + SubEQ HT, each sub is calibrated separately (like with XT); however, they are also pinged together (similar to using an as-eq1). This final step being that which lets Audyssey to take into consideration the way each sub interacts with each other.

So is it worth it?

It isn't going to work with the 18.T Duo alone, the subs are powered by a single monobloc amp.

When you can grab an Onkyo 3008 (XT 32) out there for $1200, or an Onkyo 1007 (XT) for $669, which becomes the better deal considering the stand alone as-eq1 is more than the difference?

What CS 18 package would work best with this?

If you want control over each sub, then dual 18.1 Series 2 subs, dual co-located 18.T systems (4 18" passive subs, 2 amps) or dual 18.2's.