Arx A3 + A2 center after a few weeks

[arthurs]

We're finishing up an addition on the house and our current main room Mitsubishi DLP will be moving into the new room. I can hear the color wheel and fan on the tv, well really any DLP (I have pretty great hearing) and it really bugs me so I don't want to get another DLP. We aren't videoholics, mainly just sports, shows and the occassional movie, but we do like our High Def....any suggestions on what to look at in the 52 to 56" range that won't be a total bank breaker or have the noise of a DLP? has to be table top on a stand as well...plasma? LCD? I really don't know much about TV's...

Thanks in advance for any suggestions!

Art

[Mep]

Look up the new Samsung LCD LED tvs. Should last a good long time with LED lighting unlike the blub ones. Excellent quality too. Maybe a bit pricey. If not they do have cheaper blub LCDs.

[Hugh]

SA,

Didn't you see the Samsung LED at CES?
I'd say for broke and order their big kahuna.
:)

[Lanceb1b]

We have a 42" Sony Wega...Triple LCD... Its a great set and small heater. I can hear the fan when I pause TV.

[PhenomeNhan]

SA,

Didn't you see the Samsung LED at CES?
I'd say for broke and order their big kahuna.
:)

Says he who still owns a big box TV and watches low-def all the time :D

Art, the Samsung LEDs are very nice. Sony's version is very expensive in comparison. Take a visit to one of the HT stores in FW to see what you like best.

[Hugh]

Watch it SH. :D

Says he who still owns a big box TV and watches low-def all the time :D

Art, the Samsung LEDs are very nice. Sony's version is very expensive in comparison. Take a visit to one of the HT stores in FW to see what you like best.

[BinaryLinguist]

If you want to go Plasma, go for Panasonic.

For LCD, Samsung.

What are the lighting conditions in the room? I know LCD is ahead of
plasma in terms of sales, but IMHO you still cannot beat the PQ of Plasma especially with sports. The new 120Mhz panels help LCD but I found the motion to be unnatural especially with 1080/24p material.

I love my Pioneer Kuro but after dealing with them for a warranty repair last month, I don't have a very favorable opinion of Pioneer at the moment.


Hugh, do we need to get you a new TV? You aren't fiddling with rabbit ears are you? :D

[toddbagwell]

If you want to go Plasma, go for Panasonic.

For LCD, Samsung.

<snip....>

I love my Pioneer Kuro but after dealing with them for a warranty repair last month, I don't have a very favorable opinion of Pioneer at the moment.


Hugh, do we need to get you a new TV? You aren't fiddling with rabbit ears are you? :D

I'll agree with BL here Art.

I've had a 60inch Kuro plasma for 6 months now, and I absolutely love it! It has had no issues, so I have no experience with any subpar warranty service.

The only slight downside is I have a southwest facing window in my living room that spills nasty late afternoon light all over the screen from 5-8pm. The plasma doesn't have quite the light output of my old JVC LCOS RPTV, so the contrast suffers slightly. I usually just angle the blinds slightly to improve things. So I'd recommend LCD if you plan on having a large amount of direct sunlight in the room, on the TV. Once the sun sets, the set is the absolute best picture i've ever seen. No caveats there. fantastic scaling, black levels, no motion artifact, and a very realistic picture. I paid a little under MSRP for my set and have NO regrets. I also use my plasma as an HTPC monitor, and have had no burn in issues.

As for LCD- I'd recommend an LED backlit set. They do really have better black levels than the traditional LCD sets with the always on fluorescent backlights. I found the Kuros blacks to be more natural and have better shadow detail (more and distinct subtle shades of gray) when compared side by side with the LED LCD sets (i.e. sony xbr8 and samsung a9xx series). The LCD sets IMO made all dark blacks look the same (i.e. fewer separate black levels) But they were close to the good plasmas and miles ahead of traditional LCD models.

What it boils down to IMHO is what trade off will bother you less:
1) plasma with more glass screen ambient light reflections and worse daylight contrast with great blacks and no motion artifact or
2) LCD with better daylight performance and no possible burn in issues, but slight motion artifact and slightly less detailed black levels.


best advice is go and look at a few sets and see what appeals to you the most

have fun

todd

[droht]

+1 for todd and BL.

Art, to put it in audio terms, plasma = tubes; LCD = solid state. They both can be very good; just have to figure out what you prefer.

[Jason]

I thought you were moving???:poke:

Anyway, add another vote for the Samsund LED lcd. I started a thread about it several weeks ago. I'm not a videophile either, but this set really, really impressed me. I think retail on their biggest 55" is around $3500 which is MUCH less than the Sony's.

They have them at all Best Buy's, so go out and look at them. They are very impressive.



.....never heard of someone hearing the color wheel...I can't hear ours, but I don't know how our's works with the 3 led light engines....

[arthurs]

I thought you were moving???:poke:

Anyway, add another vote for the Samsund LED lcd. I started a thread about it several weeks ago. I'm not a videophile either, but this set really, really impressed me. I think retail on their biggest 55" is around $3500 which is MUCH less than the Sony's.

They have them at all Best Buy's, so go out and look at them. They are very impressive.



.....never heard of someone hearing the color wheel...I can't hear ours, but I don't know how our's works with the 3 led light engines....

Nope, moving went bye bye... :cloud9:

I can hear flourescent lights from the next room and stuff like that....my wife is legally deaf and I went to the audiologist with her a couple months ago and had myself tested in the soundproof booth, I have measured perfect hearing and her doctors comment was it was really shocking for someone in their late 40's...the doc thinks I may be finer tuned due to compensating for my wife's hearing loss (I am her ears in public settings) and that the care I take with my ears due to the audio hobby has really been beneficial...

Thanks for all the tips guys, sounds like I want to go look at the Samsung LED LCD first...Droht, plasma = tubes, etc. was a classic! It really helped. I guess when it comes to audio I am a tube guy but with TV I am an SS guy!

Peace all!

[graphicguy]

Nope, moving went bye bye... :cloud9:

I can hear flourescent lights from the next room and stuff like that....my wife is legally deaf and I went to the audiologist with her a couple months ago and had myself tested in the soundproof booth, I have measured perfect hearing and her doctors comment was it was really shocking for someone in their late 40's...the doc thinks I may be finer tuned due to compensating for my wife's hearing loss (I am her ears in public settings) and that the care I take with my ears due to the audio hobby has really been beneficial...

Thanks for all the tips guys, sounds like I want to go look at the Samsung LED LCD first...Droht, plasma = tubes, etc. was a classic! It really helped. I guess when it comes to audio I am a tube guy but with TV I am an SS guy!

Peace all!

Art....what a kind soul you are.:clapper:

'Ya know, for $4K I bought my KURO 6020 from Costco. I haven't seen them around in a while. Might be worth a call to Costco to see if they have any left.

[blackzarg]

Plus however many one the Samsung LED LCDs. They do look pretty fan-f*cking-tastic! I'm not an owner myself, but I have seen them at stores (If there's a Magnolia next to your Best Buy, go there instead).

ON a side note, I own a Samsung LED DLP, and I'm sad to see that Samsung isn't going to make any more of these. No noise whatsoever (no color wheel), low energy consumption, and bulbs that are rated for 10 years (although this has yet to be proven). For 67" of HD for under $2000, though, DLPs were such a steal.

[Jason]

Plus however many one the Samsung LED LCDs. They do look pretty fan-f*cking-tastic! I'm not an owner myself, but I have seen them at stores (If there's a Magnolia next to your Best Buy, go there instead).

ON a side note, I own a Samsung LED DLP, and I'm sad to see that Samsung isn't going to make any more of these. No noise whatsoever (no color wheel), low energy consumption, and bulbs that are rated for 10 years (although this has yet to be proven). For 67" of HD for under $2000, though, DLPs were such a steal.

Ahh!! that's why I can't hear our color wheel!!

I can hear fluorescents as well. Also I can hear a old tube TV's very high pitch whine.

I really think you'll love the Sammy LED set's. Been a while since I got kinda excited over a TV, and this one does. Not perfect (nothing is) but darn close, and for the $$ can't be beat imo.

[arthurs]

Just to give this thread some closure, I went for the 55" Samsung LED LCD today, thanks for all the guidance guys, this is one sweet TV (and I'm an audio guy so rare for me to be excited about a TV!)

Thanks again all!